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Nov. 9, 2026

#100: Your Team Isn’t Resisting Change...They’re Resisting Being Changed.

#100: Your Team Isn’t Resisting Change...They’re Resisting Being Changed.
#100: Your Team Isn’t Resisting Change...They’re Resisting Being Changed.
For the Love of Creatives Podcast
#100: Your Team Isn’t Resisting Change...They’re Resisting Being Changed.

Have you ever been asked for your input when what someone really wanted was your agreement? There’s a particular loneliness in being told to embrace a change that leaves no room for what you know—or what you might be losing.

In this solo episode of Community and Becoming, Dwight returns to his years helping courthouse and jail teams navigate new technology. He remembers the discomfort of arriving with a system and a plan, facing people whose hard-earned understanding couldn’t be captured on a project timeline.

What shifted those rooms wasn’t a more convincing explanation. It was getting curious about what people were protecting, what their hesitation held, and what became possible when their experience became part of the work. Not every objection held the answer, but dismissing it meant missing something that mattered.

This is a conversation about the human stakes beneath organizational change: trust, identity, competence, and the need to contribute rather than simply comply. Even when some decisions are already made, there may still be room to shape the way forward—and to feel that your presence matters in what comes next.

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00:33 - Resisting Change Or Being Changed

02:16 - Why Top-Down Change Backfires

03:09 - A Courthouse Tech Change Story

04:58 - Resistance As Useful Information

07:14 - Loss Trust And Hidden Intelligence

08:55 - Honest Invitations And Clear Boundaries

10:34 - A Reflection Exercise For Real Change

13:16 - Designing Rooms Where Change Sticks

15:32 - From Buy-In To Contribution

16:35 - Getting Help Designing The Conversation

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Dwight: Think about the last time a change was announced to you.

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Dwight: Maybe it was a reorg.

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Dwight: Or maybe they said, we don't want to call it a reorg.

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Dwight: Maybe it was a new leader.

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Dwight: a new system.

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Dwight: A return to office decision.

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Dwight: A shift in priorities that quietly made 6 months of your work feel irrelevant.

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Dwight: Someone stood at the front of the room, or appeared in a little square in your screen, and explained why the change made sense.

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Dwight: The slides were polished. The timelines were ambitious.

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Dwight: They may have even… Set aside a little time for questions.

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Dwight: But the decision had already been made.

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Dwight: Your role was not to help shape the change, your role was to understand, And accept it.

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Dwight: And help make it work.

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Dwight: Then, when people hesitated, leadership called it resistance.

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Dwight: But what if people weren't resisting change?

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Dwight: What if they were resisting being changed?

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Dwight: I'm Dwight. You're listening to Community and Becoming from For the Love of Creatives.

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Dwight: I'm not here to lay out an argument that every organizational decision should be made by a committee.

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Dwight: Some decisions are already fixed.

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Dwight: Some changes are urgent. Sometimes, leaders know things they can't yet talk about.

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Dwight: But there's a difference between making a necessary decision and designing a change process that treats the people closest to the work

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Dwight: As an obstacle to manage.

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Dwight: Today, I want to explore what resistance may be telling us.

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Dwight: And what becomes possible?

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Dwight: When people are involved in a way that allows them to contribute to a change, instead of simply being asked to comply.

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Dwight: Years ago, part of my work involved helping local government teams implement

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Dwight: New technology in courthouses, in jails.

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Dwight: On paper, the work was technical.

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Dwight: Understand the process. Configure the system.

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Dwight: Train the users, and go live!

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Dwight: In reality, the hardest part was rarely the software.

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Dwight: I'd walk into a room where people had been doing important work for years and, you know, doing things that are very…

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Dwight: high stakes. We're talking, in some cases, life and death decisions.

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Dwight: They knew where the unofficial handoffs lived.

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Dwight: They knew which shortcut prevented a backlog.

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Dwight: They knew which field looked insignificant on a screen, but mattered to the person standing at a public counter, or sitting in a courtroom.

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Dwight: Or waiting in a jail cell.

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Dwight: Then, someone from the outside arrived with a new system and a project plan.

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Dwight: I hated being that guy.

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Dwight: if I treated them… If I treated their hesitation as simply being stubborn.

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Dwight: I lost access to the very intelligence the implementation needed.

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Dwight: But when I got curious, when I asked them to walk me through what they actually did, what they were protecting, and what a better day would make possible.

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Dwight: The room changed. Not because everyone suddenly loved the new system.

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Dwight: The room changed because their experience

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Dwight: Had become part of the work.

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Dwight: So here's the distinction I keep coming back to.

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Dwight: Resistance.

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Dwight: isn't always a wall in front of the work. Sometimes, resistance is information the work hasn't yet learned how to hear.

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Dwight: It may be telling you that people expect

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Dwight: Another initiative to disappear in 6 months.

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Dwight: It may be telling you that they've seen this before. It's just the flavor of the week.

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Dwight: It may be telling you that change threatens competence, Status.

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Dwight: Belonging.

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Dwight: Or an identity that someone has spent years building.

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Dwight: It may be telling you that the people designing the plan can't seem to see something that the people doing the work see every day, because

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Dwight: They're in the middle of it.

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Dwight: And yes, resistance Can also be fear.

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Dwight: habit.

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Dwight: Politics. Or a preference for the familiar.

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Dwight: I can't tell you how many times I've played the game of trying to get to the bottom, the infinite game of why that children play.

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Dwight: And the answer is, well, because that's the way we've always done it.

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Dwight: Not throwing shade.

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Dwight: We cling to the things that are familiar and comfortable. They're tried and true, they work.

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Dwight: But the way around that is just remaining.

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Dwight: Curious.

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Dwight: Being kind and open, and showing a real interest.

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Dwight: Curiosity doesn't require us to romanticize every objection.

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Dwight: It asks us not to diagnose the whole room before we've listened to it.

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Dwight: It's an opportunity for you to just show up and be a good human being.

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Dwight: And actually care about the person, or the whole group of people.

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Dwight: That are having a change forced on them.

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Dwight: Have a little empathy.

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Dwight: And figure out a way that everybody wins.

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Dwight: Whenever I encounter resistance, I'm gonna listen for at least 3 messages inside it.

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Dwight: The first message has to do with loss.

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Dwight: So it's… it's gonna look like saying.

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Dwight: What does this change ask people to release?

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Dwight: Is it a routine?

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Dwight: a relationship?

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Dwight: A sense of mastery, a story about who they are here.

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Dwight: The second message… is around trust.

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Dwight: What has this organization taught people to expect?

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Dwight: Have they seen leaders ask for input, and then… Disappear?

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Dwight: Have priorities changed without acknowledgement?

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Dwight: Is silence being mistaken for agreement?

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Dwight: The third message… is intelligence.

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Dwight: What do people closest to the work know that's not…

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Dwight: Being made part of the plan.

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Dwight: These three messages Need 3 ways of being addressed.

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Dwight: Loss needs acknowledgement.

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Dwight: Trust.

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Dwight: needs evidence.

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Dwight: Intelligence needs somewhere to go.

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Dwight: A good facilitation partner Doesn't force those three things into the same answer.

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Dwight: A good facilitator helps the room tell the difference.

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Dwight: This is where invitations matter.

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Dwight: Too many change conversations and be… too many change conversations begin with a promise that sounds like, we want your input!

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Dwight: When what leadership really means is.

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Dwight: We want your acceptance. We want your unquestioning compliance. We just want you to roll over and do what we say.

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Dwight: Because we said so.

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Dwight: People can feel the difference.

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Dwight: A more honest invitation names three things.

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Dwight: What's already decided?

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Dwight: What's genuinely open to influence?

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Dwight: And what will happen with what people contribute?

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Dwight: If the destination is fixed, perhaps the route is still open.

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Dwight: If the technology has already been selected.

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Dwight: Then maybe the workflow, the training, the support, measures of success, the implementation pace can still benefit from the wisdom of the room.

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Dwight: Boundaries don't kill participation.

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Dwight: It's false possibility that does.

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Dwight: It's those subtle messages that… Tell people that they're just there to sit down and shut up.

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Dwight: We've all experienced those things.

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Dwight: I don't want this to remain an idea you agree with while you're driving or you're folding laundry.

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Dwight: So, if you're busy doing something, I want you to come back to this and walk through what we're about to get into.

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Dwight: Now, if you're willing, I want you to think.

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Dwight: Of a change that you've lived through.

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Dwight: It can be happening now, or it could be something that you still remember in your bones.

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Dwight: And don't choose the most traumatic change of your life. Choose something that you can look at with some room to breathe.

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Dwight: Alright, got it in your head?

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Dwight: And we're gonna look at it together here. First question.

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Dwight: When, during the change?

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Dwight: Did you feel most informed, respected, or able to contribute?

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Dwight: Maybe it was a conversation that you had with a manager.

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Dwight: Maybe.

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Dwight: Somebody explained why without pretending to know everything.

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Dwight: Maybe your team was allowed to solve the problem in its own way.

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Dwight: What happened in the moment?

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Dwight: What did the leader or the group do that made participation… made participation feel real?

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Dwight: And what did that allow you to bring that might otherwise have stayed hidden?

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Dwight: Now, I want you to bring…

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Dwight: the memory of that change into the present.

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Dwight: What condition from that moment Is missing in the change that you're facing now.

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Dwight: Was it Clarity?

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Dwight: Choice?

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Dwight: Time to make sense of what was happening?

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Dwight: Permission to say what others were avoiding?

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Dwight: evidence that… Somebody would do something with what you shared?

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Dwight: Finally, what's one conversation you could convene? Not control, but convene.

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Dwight: That would restore A little of that original condition.

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Dwight: Who needs to be in it?

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Dwight: What question would make their experience useful?

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Dwight: And what honest boundary needs to be named before anyone speaks?

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Dwight: Our conversation will not transform.

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Dwight: An organization in an afternoon.

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Dwight: But the way we design that conversation can tell whether transformation is actually possible.

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Dwight: when I think about Any change gathering.

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Dwight: A leadership retreat.

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Dwight: An employee summit, a strategy session, a conference.

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Dwight: Even a difficult team meeting.

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Dwight: I'm thinking about what happens while everyone is in the room.

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Dwight: I'm thinking about the invitation.

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Dwight: What are people being asked to bring?

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Dwight: And what are they being promised?

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Dwight: I'm thinking about the room.

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Dwight: Whose voice becomes easy to hear, and whose wisdom Needs a different way in.

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Dwight: I'm thinking about the decisions.

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Dwight: What will be made here?

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Dwight: What will travel forward?

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Dwight: And who owns the next move?

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Dwight: And… I'm thinking about the return.

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Dwight: What happens 30 days later, when urgency's moved on and old habits are waiting?

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Dwight: Change doesn't have to become… Something oppressive, and it doesn't become real.

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Dwight: Because everyone had a… Great meeting, or a… High emotional afternoon together.

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Dwight: Change becomes real.

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Dwight: When the conversation changes what people see.

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Dwight: What they can shape.

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Dwight: And what they're willing to do next.

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Dwight: There has to be something that…

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Dwight: Tugs at people inside that makes them actually shift.

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Dwight: It's not something that we can just…

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Dwight: Either get on the train, or… Get the boot.

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Dwight: If you're leading change, Here's the question that I'd leave on your desk.

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Dwight: Where are we asking for buy-in when we should be creating the condition for contribution?

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Dwight: Buy-in comes too late in the sentence.

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Dwight: It asks people to… Attach themselves to something somebody else has already completed.

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Dwight: Contribution begins earlier.

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Dwight: It says, There are realities we must honor. There are decisions we must make.

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Dwight: And there is intelligence in this system we can't afford to waste.

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Dwight: You don't have to surrender leadership to let people participate.

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Dwight: You may have to practice

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Dwight: a different brand of leadership. One that's strong enough to name the boundaries, and curious enough

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Dwight: To let the room change the plan.

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Dwight: And if you're planning a retreat, summit.

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Dwight: Leadership gathering, or a change initiative.

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Dwight: And you want people to do more than nod their way through it.

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Dwight: I would be glad to help you design the conversations that need to happen before Inside.

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Dwight: And after the room.

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Dwight: We'll include a link in the show notes to start the conversation.

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Dwight: Until next time.

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Dwight: Keep creating community, And keep becoming.