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to me.
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I think nobody can do anything at all without community, like we wouldn't be able to speak or or find pieces to inspire us or anything that um for me that's really well said.
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I love the way.
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I never thought of it quite like that.
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But you're right.
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You know we are interdependent.
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Yeah, Everything that's ever inspired me was made by somebody or made by groups of people and like built from ancestors of like things that they've made, or I don't know how to explain that.
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But everything's like projects and then I see that and then it helps me do things.
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It's just like a never ending cycle.
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Do you do a fair amount of collaboration creating with others?
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A lot.
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I try and do one a day.
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Like one project a day.
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Tell us a little bit about that.
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Today I'm doing a no yeah.
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So today I have a film rehearsal and that's a bunch of people involved and we're all just like reading scripts.
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And then I'm also doing this rehearsal with this group called the Texas Harmonies.
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We just sing songs.
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I think Poker Face is on the list for tonight.
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It's acapella, so it's really fun Nice.
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Hey and welcome to another episode of For the Love of Creatives podcast.
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Another episode of For the Love of Creatives podcast.
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I am your Connections and Community Guy host Dwight, joined by our other Connections and Community Guy host, maddox, and today our featured guest is the one and only Sertsy.
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Hello, sertsy.
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Hi, how are you doing?
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Wonderful.
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We're so thrilled that you could be here today.
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I am so excited because I know that you have lived an incredible life of things that you have done.
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Tell our audience a little bit about who you are and what you're about.
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I'm just a very, very curious person.
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Ever since I was little, I've wanted to learn how to do everything, which is not really possible.
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Obviously, we're limited by our bodies and our skill sets and location and stuff like that, but everything that I was able to do I wanted to try it.
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But my main goal, like in general, is networking people and like helping people get up.
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So a little bit of background that I don't know if you know about.
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I did my my degrees in anthropology and sociology, so that helped me figure out how to connect people a little bit more.
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Like it taught me a lot about code switching and just like the Venn diagram of relationships and intimacy and communication in ways that people can absorb information better.
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So that helps me a lot with the networking and the arts.
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And yeah, it's just, it's been a whiplash experience, but very, very fun.
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You're speaking our language, because we're all about connecting people.
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It's like it's the blood that runs through our veins.
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It's so there's.
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It's an indescribable feeling to be able to see people connect and then make things from it.
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Yeah, well, this is, this is definitely the, the juice that that makes life worth the squeeze.
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I'm so excited because I've gotten a chance to find a lot of things about you before we actually met, and it's everywhere I turned.
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It was just another moment of what you is.
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You started, you actually engaged in creative pursuits at the tender age of four years old.
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Yeah, my parents are also very into creating, but I think they kind of like inspired me, because for a long time I I just think creating is like a thing you have to be open to, like a thing you have to like be willing to give the energy to, and they they kind of made it seem like it was just like a part of life.
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But as I got older I was like, whoa, I can do more of this and help people.
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But but four years old it was, yeah, it was, it was a lot.
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I think they gave you a really really big gift, you know just leading you to believe that it was just a part of life, because it is.
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But it's just, it's funny to think about as an adult because I remember when my dad they were separated so it was different types of creativity, but he would have us go through the trash can and look at things that we could use as canvas, because canvas was really expensive at the time for us.
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But it's just, it's funny looking back at that, like the priorities, like just being open to looking through the trash.
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I've never talked about that before, but Well, that's, that sounds amazing.
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I think that's fascinating, because you never know what you're going to find.
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I mean all my life I've heard one man's trash is another man's treasure.
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Yeah, it's just like a humble entry to it.
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I think it's amazing how you put together some pretty eclectic and, I'd say, I don't know whimsical experiences that were part of your formative years and you managed to nail down something that is, you know by a lot of measures, very solid, stable, predictable.
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I mean, you're credentialed, you went, you, you went to school and you, you got your, your background in anthropology and sociology, so you're, you're firmly planted in what everyone thinks is, oh, you know, definitely, um, someone that's um safe and no one that we need to worry about.
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Um, but little little might they know if they just peel beyond the surface.
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Oh, my gosh, there's an explosion of different creative directions that you go, and there's there's very little that you're afraid to do.
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Yeah, do you want to see some shoes that I made for a fashion show?
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Oh, we would love to here and stuff, because nobody would.
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I don't think this is very common.
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It's a moss shoe oh my goodness sustainability show I love it but um, you just reminded me of that because I think most people would be like don't do that, there's also a purse with it oh, wow oh wow.
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I'm just so obsessed with nature right now.
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I'm just like grasping for it because everything's so like, especially in America.
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Everything feels very like, boxy and very far removed.
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Yes, but a lot of the designs that I make are very like.
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They're very like out of the box when it comes to, like, staying in the safe zone.
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You reminded me of that with what you just said.
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Well, you know, I find it quite refreshing because my own background is one of being very tethered to the things that were predictable and safe, and it wasn't until I got to experience some loss around the pandemic that I got in touch with a lot of the things that were, from what I can tell about you, just part of what it was to exist.
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To just go and figure out where it was that your, your creative spirit, wanted to go, and, and to just go and try things out.
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Am I able to ask you about what might've encouraged your, your pivot, during the pandemic?
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Absolutely and understand that.
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I know that everyone was was dealing with being locked down during that time and I was with a partner of 20 years who had a severe medical condition, a terminal medical condition advanced liver disease medical care during the time when hospitals were surging and we'd we'd go into hospitals and have to deal with warlike conditions, uh, just to get what's well, what's ordinarily in some pretty intense care.
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And it was made even worse while it was stressed and I uh, my whole life uh, centered around being a caregiver at that at that point.
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And, um, once the once the lockdowns were lifted, we still had to deal with the disease and, uh, there was a point and I guess it was March of 22, where there was a hospitalization that he didn't return from and, despite doing all the things that were made to prepare for the inevitable when he died, I was wrecked and I went through a pretty dark period and I also went through a lot of exploration to figure out just who I was and what I was really about and got to really meet myself for the first time and it's been it's, it's been an amazing experience and an amazing rebirth, if you will rebirth, if you will.
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Yeah, I'm glad you were able to take it and turn it into something like I call it toroidal cycle, but I don't know of a better word Like when you like cycle it through, like to help regenerate.
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I'm sorry you had to go through that.
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It was what brought us together because at the same time he was going through that, I was single at the time and locked in my house by myself.
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For two years I spent a lot of time on Zoom, just to survive, just to have some connection with the outside world, which I'm grateful that I had.
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But I think when we started to emerge for different reasons but I started saying, before the pandemic even lifted, when this is all said and done and I can go back out into the streets without this mask, I'm going to do whatever it takes to create an epic social life for myself.
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I want my home to be a social hub and not drunken parties by any means, but real connection, real social time where you're spending time with people that you know, like and trust and want to have deeper meaning in your, your connection with and our.
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Somehow our desires and our dreams aligned and the universe brought us together.
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That's so wonderful.
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I'm glad that you're able to find each other, because it feels nice to be able to like find people that are on the same path and able to help each other back and forth.
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The Internet's an amazing place.
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We are very aligned particularly on this the bringing of people together and creating community, and we're very aligned together and creating community and we're very aligned Well, and it's amazing, I'm sorry, it's amazing how circumstances just work out with things.
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You know, I feel like we eventually just make it to where we're supposed to be and I think that kind of leads into how it is that you managed to find your place in Dallas.
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Like I know that you had troubled times with hashtag van life.
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Yeah Well, I didn't really want to end up in Dallas but in Kentucky.
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Every time I would Google, so OK.
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So before the pandemic I did try the nine to to five, but then the pandemic made it.
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So I was like I don't want to rely on that.
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I feel like if I do the nine to five it's going to take my whole life away and then maybe I won't even have benefits by the time it's time for retirement.
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It just didn't make sense to me and I was like I'd rather just live now.
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So then I um, a lot of people moved to to Texas from Kentucky or a lot of people all across the US are moving to Texas because of the job opportunities.
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So I was like, let me try one of those.
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And I got in an RV and I ended up in Corpus Christi and I met my boyfriend.
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He was a skydiving pilot and I was a skydiver, so yeah, it just worked out, and his family's here.
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So this is not exactly at the beach, but it's pretty close to the beach.
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So that's why I'm staying for a little bit and I like the people.
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The people are.
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There's just all types of groups Like, if you want to go listen to reggae music.
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You can listen to reggae.
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If you want to go like Venezuelan food, which is where my family's from then I can go do that.
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None of that was an opportunity in Kentucky.
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We do have a lot.
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Dallas offers a lot in the way of culture and art and music and dining and shopping and you name it Fashion.
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It offers a lot.
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You can walk out your door and just about you know walk oftentimes to.
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It's not a walking city but if you're, especially if you're, in the inner city, there's a lot that's really close it's.
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That's new to me.
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I've never really been around a metropolis.
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I've heard about them and I saw them on tv.
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But, um, in kentucky, especially lexington, it was like one street there was maybe like 15 buildings, not even that tall, and everybody dressed the same and everybody ate sandwiches and salads.
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So it's just, and I couldn't even really speak spanish because it was offensive, so I just got used to it and now that I'm here, I'm like whoa, there's so much stuff, so many people.
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Well, and I think the beautiful thing about the way things are set up here, like there is a world where you could conceivably walk inside an existence.
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That was exactly what you described in Lexington.
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In lexington, um, but you can just choose to to walk over a street and, um, or you know, just pick a point on the map and you've.
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You've got all sorts of choices.
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If you want to go and see what's happening with, uh, deep bellum, or, um, lower greenville, uh, if you're into, you know, going to nightclubs and bars and that kind of thing, there's that for you.
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And if you want things that are maybe very focused on arts and design, you know we've got all kinds of things with the design district and with the, with the, the beautiful, well, everything that they have going on in the, in the arts district, you know, especially around the spring, I mean, my goodness, there's you, you can just go walk in any direction.
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Once you go to where the M line terminates and you, you know, you're just bombarded with all kinds of things on offer for you to do.
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It's crazy.
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So let's see, I'd like to dive a little bit deeper.
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I love the opportunity and the choices.
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Oh yes, lots of opportunity and choices.
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Yes.
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I think there's a lag.
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Sorry.
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I think there is a little bit of a lag.
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I'd like to dive in a little bit.
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Yeah, I would like to ask, on an internal level, what would you say?
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Maybe it's life experiences or struggles or pain that you've been through, and maybe not.
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Maybe it's something else, but what would you say is the driving factor behind what you create?
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Where does that come from within you?
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So I have Graves' disease and I discovered it when I was like 19 and I think that, um, I've always kind of wanted to do things.
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I've always been kind of a dreamer, but I always some.
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I think most people think they have time forever, but um, that that Graves disease made me realize that I could probably not have that much time, and a lifetime isn't very long if you think about it, even if you do live to like the max.
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So I just I feel like it's like those things combined with the fact that I want to document a lot, like I think everyone needs to.
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If they have things to give, they have to give it out so that other people can grab onto what you have and then make things from that.
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So I'm just like constantly like I need a.
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I need to make it for not just for myself, but because of the time and because other people probably need to see it.
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I don't know if that makes sense.
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It's like good, it's a lot of things it makes perfect sense it makes perfect sense and maybe if we add a little texture.
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I know that you've done some things like avant-garde modeling.
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What is that even like?
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So the shoes that I just showed you that's for a show, that's it's an avant-garde show, and so avant-garde is basically the way I like to describe it is something that you wouldn't wear every day because it might break and it'd also be very uncomfortable to sit in, and you can't even really get into cars with it because it's just so delicate usually, and it's also strange, some people would look at it.
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That part's not so bad, but it's basically strange, strange fashion.
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I see a lot of that floating across social media, things that I couldn't imagine ever wearing in public.
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It makes for a spectacular view as they're running down you know walking up and down the runway.
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But you're right, there's nothing practical about it.
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Yeah, it might even be dangerous, like tripping over certain things and stuff like that, but I think the goal is to be able to use it once and then take a picture, and then I think the redundancy of it is what makes it more of an art piece like a one-of-one piece yeah, I never thought of it like that yeah, it's like the more ridiculous the better, almost.
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Yeah, I get it and I've certainly seen that, but you just kind of put like a spin on it where I, for the first time, kind of understand it.
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You know, I've kind of thought I've always been into fashion my whole life and I'm like thinking, what are they doing?
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You know, this doesn't have anything to do with what you would, people would buy and actually wear on the street, but that's not what it's about I feel like it also combines elitism in it for a little bit, or I don't know how to explain it because, um, you have to have a certain amount of money to be able to spend on materials that you will never be able to use again or that you can't even use at all, just like hanging it up and put it as a display.
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So it kind of like feels like classist in a bit, but that's a whole other discussion.
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But I can make it and I get it from like, very, very cheap materials, so I'm able to, thankfully, do it.
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That's interesting, paying for it, and stuff like off the runway.
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I don't know, that'd be hard.
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That's really cool and makes us kind of appreciate Well, and it definitely makes you think.
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I mean, the pieces that you showed this morning were about sustainability, you know kind of it's like it's contradictory because it has plastic and then I'm not even sure what the fake moss is.
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I did upcycle the shoes like that the base shoes but it's it's just like a lot of layers to it.
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I wish it was fully sustainable, but we're still using plastic.
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It's hard to say that I think that I will now really have a different level of appreciation for those videos as I see them.
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Or, you know, we've gotten involved in an organization that is about fashion, so we will be attending some things like what you're describing, and I think I'm going to.
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Just what you've shared has given me the ability to have an appreciation that I wouldn't have had, so I hope that there are listeners out there that maybe have gained something from what you shared as much as I have.
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Thank you for that.
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That was a gift.
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You know I'll be able to see it differently now.
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Yeah, do you like paintings?
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I do.
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I've painted a little bit.
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In fact, that colorful one back behind me here is one of mine.
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The thing about it is I like it, but I don't like doing it by myself.
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Oh, we should host a workshop one of these days.
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But I was going to say that it's kind of like paintings, like you can't always exactly use your paintings.
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I mean, they're decorations.
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I have some paintings in here I don't know if you can see them, some things like that but you can't exactly use them.
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But it's still kind of like it's gotten to the point where I think people are making things not just to use them.
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They're making them just to make them.
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And to practice skills.
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I think too.
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And I certainly did my share of that.
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In fact, there was a point recently, six months ago, where I cleaned the garage out and I had, like, I like to paint big canvases, but most of my canvases were practice canvases, so they they didn't look like finished art, or they didn't to me, you know, and I I donated all of them to a local thrift store, which I doubt anybody actually bought them, and hung them on the wall.
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They probably bought the canvas on the cheap and then just re-upcycled it, as you said, painted over.
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Whatever I did, I knew when I started it it wasn't art.
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I knew it was just me practicing technique and playing with color.
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But my heart's happiest when I'm painting next to someone else.
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When I started painting I took a class and every week I was in class where I was painting with other students and I got so indoctrinated in the painting with others that when I ended the class and thought, oh, I'll paint, I didn't enjoy it.
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I didn't enjoy painting by myself.
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Yeah, it's a lot more fun with people.
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It's an energetic thing for me.
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I have one piece, but the favorite piece that I painted hangs down in our dining room and I hosted a big painting party where there were probably I don't know 15 or 20 people and we had canvases stuck all over the walls of this big, huge studio and people were sipping on wine and laughing and talking, having a good time and painting.
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And the energy in the room enabled me to paint my best piece ever and I did it in 45 minutes flat and I knew it was done.
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I was like I'm done and it was just.
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It all came from.
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It didn't look like anything else I'd ever painted and it all came from just the energy that was flowing in the room.
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It was an amazing experience and I'll never forget it.
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Oh, and it's a testament to how anything worth doing, worth having, is just enhanced whenever we're able to share it.
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Yeah, it's.
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I have this, this quote, that I tell my boyfriend all the time that it's like did I even go for a walk at the park if I didn't take a picture of it and show my friends or my mom or something?
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It's not.
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I mean, it's still nice, but it's not as nice.
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Yes, I love it.
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Yeah, there are some things that cameras just can't capture.
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Yeah, the things that our eyes see, that the camera lens just doesn't have the ability to, to see and capture, that's always fascinating to me.
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Well and I know that there's something that comes from just being there the experience of an event is going to be far different from any way that can be recorded or relayed.
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We, we, we just get so much more by just being in the moment.
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Cersei, do you, do you have any creativity?
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That is, that is not making things like like you know.
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For instance, you know my creativity comes in the form of ideas.
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You know we host events and we connect people, we publish this podcast and I guess you could say we're making something with the podcast, but we're not making something that is like a tangible piece of art that you would display.
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I write a lot and that's how my creativity shows up, but honestly, you know, I always laughingly say creativity comes into every piece of my life.
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You know, I got really, really creative at one point in my life to figure out how to fold the chip bag down in a manner that it would keep the chips fresh.
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That's really cool.
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That's like an invention.
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I love that, but I'm, you know, I see the things that you create.
00:26:53.200 --> 00:27:09.531
But Dwight also said at one point that you worked, you were an aerialist, and I don't know much about that and it's certainly a form of creativity, so, but I'd love to know that or anything else that you do that's been creative.
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That hasn't been about making something, because we don't talk about that that much.
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So I want to before I answer, where can I read some of your stuff?
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We have a sub stack page and we haven't had it for very long, so there's only a handful of articles in there, but I would I would love to share that with you.
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Yeah, I would love to see some.
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I was going to read today, since it's all rainy, but.
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But, creativity wise.
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I used to host events with my father in Lexington.
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We used to have wine and dine parties and then also we would paint and talent shows and we would invite everyone and everybody would bring their instruments and we just organized events like that.
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And when I started traveling that had to stop, because you have to stay in one place if you're doing events, because you kind of have to be like a hub for people.
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But I sing, I dance poetry, a lot of writing for academia, because I just have to, I have to contribute.
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I spend a lot of time absorbing academic papers so I feel like I have to give back.
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But then aerialing or aerialisting is kind of a flow, so I categorize that as dance, but it is.
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It does take some category or some some creativity.
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And and are you?
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When you say you think of it like dance?
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Are you on a tight wire?
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No, it's like a, it's a hoop.
